A new perspective on Laurence Paul Allen’s thesis: A History of the Aboriginal People of the Central Coast of New South Wales to 1874

In September 2021 a thesis by one Laurence Paul Allen is submitted to the University of Newcastle in NSW, in fulfilment of the requirements for the degree of Doctor of Philosophy in Modern History. Titled A History of the Aboriginal People of the Central Coast of New South Wales to 1874, this academic work deftly acknowledges the “GuriNgai” issue from an academic perspective, and adds some additional insight to our existing understanding on the GuriNgai situation.

Early on Mr Allen gives an account for of the initial confusion over the name Kuring-gai:

There has been much controversy on the Central Coast over the correct name for the Aboriginal people of the area, and for their country and language. One popular contender for all three has been ‘Kuring-gai’, first attested in an undated Aboriginal word list compiled by the surveyor and ethnographer John Frederick Mann (as ‘Kuringa, Gai’). 13 Although Mann did not specify where ‘Kuringa, Gai’ was, he himself was closely associated with the Central Coast. Then in 1892 linguist and ethnographer Rev. John Fraser published missionary Lancelot Threlkeld’s work on the Lake Macquarie language and included a reference to the ‘Kurringai tribe’ whose hunting grounds, he claimed, stretched from the Macleay River south to the Hawkesbury.14  He also wrote that Kuringai was an established name at that time whose basic meaning was ‘men’ – perhaps drawing on Mann’s reference from several decades earlier. Here matters rested for many years until a map drawn by Norman Tindale in 1940 showing ‘the distribution of the Aboriginal tribes of Australia’ designated the people living between Gosford and Wyong as the ‘Darkinung’ or ‘Darkinjang’, and this has been perpetuated in the widely known coloured version of this map first published in 1974.15

 Mr Allen even specifies the work that convinced Mr Whitfield to tattoo his arm(see below).

However in 1970 linguist Arthur Capell considered that ‘a language which it is convenient to call Kuringgai (Guringgai) was spoken on the north side of Port Jackson, and extended at least to Tuggerah Lakes, merging then into Awaba [i.e. the language recorded by Missionary Threlkeld at Lake Macquarie]’. Capell claimed that a different language, which he called Darginyung, was spoken in the Upper McDonald Valley, Wollombi and the western part of the Central Coast. 16

Mr Allen pre-emptively sidesteps a common complaint from GuriNgai devotees, one experienced by this author on this week.

It is important to note that Capell was simply seeking to find an appropriate name for a language and was not asserting that this was the name by which Aboriginal people identified themselves.

Mr Allen goes on to identify that the uncertainty linked to these discrepancies came to a head when the local Land Council was given the name Darkinjung, raising the ire of those Central Coast people identifying as ‘Guringai’, or another alternative, ‘Wanangine’. 17

And what is the source given by Mr Allen? Holy smokes its only ‘Guringai Aboriginal Tribal Link: About Us,’ accessed 21 Feb. 2017, http://www.guringai.com.au!

I can very much relate to what Mr Allen describes as “(t)he confusion continued in 2010 when veterinarian Geoffrey Ford’s M.A. thesis ‘Darkiñung Recognition’ asserted that the coastal plain forming the eastern strip of the Central Coast was home to the ‘Wannungine’.

In 2013 Geoffrey Ford added that the language was almost certainly called Darkiñung, while in 2015 the Aboriginal Heritage Office (AHO) published an exhaustive study of the name ‘Guringai’, which concluded that ‘the use of the term Guringai or any of its various spellings such as Kuringgai is not warranted [anywhere] given its origin and previous use’.

Mr Allen identifies the blanket list from which the name ‘Walkeloa’ was appropriated:

In addition, the 1837 census or ‘Native Return’ compiled by missionary Lancelot Threlkeld lists the Aboriginal people of Brisbane Water as the ‘Walkeloa’ but this name does not seem to have received support in the twenty-first century.

Clearly, this ongoing debate is relevant when writing about the Central Coast if Aboriginal people are to be named without causing unnecessary offence. Although various options have been considered, the name used in this thesis to identify the Aboriginal people of the Central Coast is ‘Darkinjung’, in conformity with the name and spelling adopted by the local Land Council. The terms ‘coastal Darkinjung’ or ‘Central Coast Darkinjung’ are occasionally used to distinguish them from the ‘inland Darkinjung’, that is, the people living around Wollombi and the MacDonald River. This should not be considered as a claim that Aboriginal people on the Central Coast referred to themselves by these names in the nineteenth century, as no documentary evidence has been found for such an assertion. Historian Michael Powell and private researcher Rex Hesline have pointed out that almost all current names for Aboriginal languages and clan groupings are late constructs, and there is little evidence that they were known to Indigenous people in 1788.

 It is the present writer’s view that the names of the small family clans on the Central Coast (since lost) would have been the only collective names used, and in all probability, there would have been no name in their language for the people as a whole, the Central Coast region or, in fact, the language itself.

On page 14 we see how the GuriNgai were able to have their stories referred to in an academic paper; I am sorry for your loss Mr Allen.

Mr Allen correctly identifies the sources of claimed connection between a Sophy of the Central Coast area and Bungaree. Yet another biography has appeared recently, entitled Bungaree’s Mob, published by a local history group at Pearl Beach as part of a wider education campaign. 72 A biography of Sophy, Bungaree’s daughter, and Charlotte Ashby, his granddaughter, has appeared on several websites and has been attributed to Warren Whitfield, a descendant. 73

You should be able to trust people hey.

Whitfield’s fictional narrative that Charlotte Webb is somehow the grand-daughter of Bungaree appears again:

Less is known about the way Darkinjung people interacted with other Brisbane Water settlers. James Webb, the earliest settler, whose property was spread between present day Orange Grove and Woy Woy, 55 is believed to have had sexual relations with Sophy/Booratora, reputed to be the daughter of Bungaree and his wife Matora, and this liaison resulted in the birth of a child, Charlotte, in about 1824.56

Page 188 gifts us with the following:

Webb does not appear to have lived long with Sophy/Booratora, since their daughter Charlotte was brought up by Sophy and a de facto stepfather, John Smith.64

Page 312 provides us documentary evidence in the form of a photograph of Charlotte Ashby, sourced from none other than Mr Warren Whitfield.

 This photgraph of Charlotte Ashby is at the time of writing still displayed on the website of one of Mr Whitfield’s relatives.

It’s only when you scroll down to the comments that you find yet another family member of Warren Whitfield attempting to correct the record.

To which Warren Whitfield admits his mistake, before proceeding to do nothing about correcting it, for as of now just over 13 years.

The photo mislabeled by Warren Whitfield as being of Charlotte Ashby, a mistake Warren Whitfield was made aware of, publicly acknowledged, then left to sit there misleading others, has now made it into the Academy.

The same Charlotte Ashby that Warren Whitfield claims inspiried him the have the word ‘Guringai’ tattooed on his forearm.

Yet he mislabels her picture?

And lets it remain mislabeled in perpetuity?

Poor Hannah Ashby to be disrespected so by a supposed descendant no less!

Warren has demonstrated in the comment section of website Bungaree.org an unusual preoccupation with academia. To now have his ‘work’ cited in an academic work most likely has real significance for him, regardless of context/legitimacy/accuracy of his output.

I’m confident the GuriNgai would have been thrilled to see this fiction slip past the keeper:

Vampires have less hunger for blood than some Ashby descendants for Bungaree’s: they just can’t prove what isn’t there to prove, that Sophy was not a daughter of Bungaree.

I do not know, nor have I met Laurence Paul Allen, but I applaud his thesis, and the fine line he had to walk around some of the people and subsequent misinformation surrounding claims for the Central Coast and beyond.

My only hope is that future acknowledgments of Warren Whitfield’s work appears in Criminology textbooks, or even more overtly recognised as the carnival oddity they are.

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Addendum. Dr Geoff Ford.

Addendum. Using threats of court action to stifle critique

Addendum. A new perspective on Laurence Paul Allen’s thesis…

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Responses to “A new perspective on Laurence Paul Allen’s thesis: A History of the Aboriginal People of the Central Coast of New South Wales to 1874”

  1. Warren Whitfield

    A mistake in a photo does make the history untrue nor is it of significance.
    That mistake was acknowledged.
    It was my uncle’s site, not mine, and I have no say in relation to what is corrected or otherwise. I didn’t put that story there nor did I sanction it.
    You continue your lies and slander, to what end Jayson?
    You are definitely not interested in the truth.
    Hanna looked similar to Charlotte and the hut and parrot was owned by Charlotte, it’s a simple mistake. Mother and daughter anyway.
    I’ve asked you on several occasions to prove your connection but you don’t do so.
    What have you got to hide Jayson. The only criminal here is you, with your lies and slander.
    It will be your total undoing. Sooner than you realise.
    You should be aware of the nature of the scarcity of documents, the further in time we go back. Not withstanding what I just said, there is documentary evidence in relation to our connection.
    The same cannot be said of you Jayson.
    There is no connection between you and Bungaree’s family at all.
    Prove me wrong Jayson.
    You tend to ignore a tidal wave of evidence and concentrate on insignificant details.
    But Jayson you provide no evidence, that’s zero evidence of your claims.
    You can’t even produce evidence that you are who you claim to be.
    A person that only found out he was Aboriginal in 2020 has the audacity to criticise those who he claims to be a family member of.
    If you are descended from Sarah Wallace, that’s a very big if because you have not shown connectivity, then you are family.
    I doubt that you are related given that you have not shown your lineage in a coherent and uninterrupted fashion.
    You are just full of hot air, coming from an overbloated ego, neurodiversely speaking.
    You criticise my connection even though you know it exists, but Jayson your connection does not exist.
    Never has Jayson and never will. Because Jayson you are a fake with a brain disorder, who uses vexatious claims to try and discredit honest people in order to exact some warped revenge because of your totally justified rejection.
    I am not involved and haven’t been for 20 years. But if I was you would still be rejected because of your very poor work. Not up to scratch I’m afraid Jayson.
    You are just not able to carry out unbiased research.
    To say that I wanted any work that I have done endorsed by academia is absurd.
    I couldn’t care less about who reads anything that have actually written or that which was written about me.
    I have never chased publicity but Jayson you approached my family for endorsement of your fictitious work, but unfortunately your work simply wasn’t very good, still isn’t.
    Prove who you are Jayson. Prove who you say you are.
    I expected a slimy egotistical low life like yourself to stoop to gutter level story telling.
    The truth doesn’t matter to you at all.
    You are just after the publicity. Aren’t you Jayson Google it Cooke.
    As I’ve said before Jayson prove who you are, put up or shut up.
    You have absolutely no credibility

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  2. Warren Whitfield

    Jayson you still don’t know how to reference your work, wtf Jayson. Don’t you know how to?
    Reference your work Jayson and prove that you are who you say you are!
    It’s not hard for those who are genuine.
    I’ve asked you now many times to prove who you are.

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    1. jaysondcooke

      Warren, if you and your organisation are not aware of who I am, my lineage, or my connection to Bungaree, then why is it you also claim that I am a member of your group?

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      1. Warren Whitfield

        I don’t claim that you are a member of our group Jayson but I have read your comments on the Bungaree family Facebook page.
        You were accepted into the Facebook page apparently, reading your comments, therein, I find your behaviour very strange and overbearing from the get go.
        It is apparent that your mental issues are long standing.
        Get some help Jayson, in time you may become a useful and decent human being.
        BTW you still haven’t proven who you are.
        I suppose you don’t because you can’t.
        The hypocrisy is astounding, bordering on criminal.

        You still haven’t proven that you are descended from Sarah Wallace let alone the Broken Bay Tribe.
        Dodging the question seems to be your modes operandi.
        BTW the photo that you published above is Charlotte Ashby, it was the one in front of Charlotte’s hut at Narara that was Hanna, her daughter.
        In regards to the other work in relation to the use of the word Guringai, I agree.
        What we knew 20 years ago is different to what we know now.
        It’s called the evolution of knowledge.
        But Jayson I have said that on a few occasions right here within the comments section.
        Nobody that you have ever mentioned has denied my family’s connection with the Broken Bay Tribe and all your hyperbole will never change that.
        Prove who you are Jayson.
        I feel an enormous reluctance on your part to do that. Is it because you can’t and that you are just an unimportant bag of hot air?
        That’s what I’m thinking about you Jayson, you are a fake and your reputation is in self destruct.
        I have never known who you are, just someone with no importance or any particular talent trying to make his way through life by riding on the backs of those who came before you.
        Pitiful really.

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  3. Warren Whitfield

    You were accepted on the Facebook page at face value. No one asked you to prove who you are, so Jayson no one, including members of Sarah Wallace’s family know who you are, interesting that.
    Prove who you are Jayson, don’t make it up because we will check.

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    1. jaysondcooke

      Sorry Warren, which Facebook page?
      I don’t want to insist on a reference at this point but there are quite a few Facebook pages, and it’s not clear to your audience which page specifically you are referring to.

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  4. Warren Whitfield

    Family of Bungaree.
    I showed your site to a psychologist friend of mine and after reading it she came to the conclusion that you have delusions of grandeur, imagine that Jayson, you with delusions of grandeur.
    I would never have guessed. Well actually I would have.
    Prove who you are, you fake!

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    1. jaysondcooke

      Thanks for sharing my work Warren. I hope they liked and subscribed.

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  5. Warren Whitfield

    I screenshot the conversations with you Jayson. You can’t lie about it

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  6. OopsyDaisy

    Such a typical mission manager attitude that Warren displays here when cornered like the lying rat he is. The whole lot of them are completely ignorant of our ways and our linguistics. The entire GurNgai capitalisation is rubbish. They aren’t special. The Pama Nyungan groups across this continent use the SAME sounds. These gammin pop ups are in it for money. So obviously. They attack your mental health as deflection from the burden of proof.

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    1. Warren Whitfield

      You obviously haven’t read all the comments. Who are you to say what is right or wrong. Another confused individual which has no idea what you are talking about.
      Taken in by a fake narcissist with a grudge.
      Get down of your pedestal and stop being star struck by this spreader of disinformation.
      You people have no moral compass.
      Ask Jayson to prove who he is, he won’t because he can’t.
      The only lying rat here is Jayson, enabled by the gullible, you.

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      1. Warren Whitfield

        I haven’t been involved at all for more than 20 years, haven’t chased publicity and made no money. All I did was start a family group so that our family could get together and share information.
        Jayson is slandering us because of a grudge, and probably trying to get some notoriety in the process, to set himself up on order to make money.
        Get your facts right before making ridiculous unwarranted comments.
        Jayson claims to be a member of our family but, alas, he can’t prove it.

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      2. jaysondcooke

        Warren, I do not claim to be a part of you Cult, or your family as is abundantly clear.
        No one is being slandered by me, as you well know, and your ‘accomplishments’ are documented and a matter of record, as well as collated here, on this website.
        We can see how not involved you are are in this farce, and appreciate your continued lack of involvement and lack of attention seeking.
        Priceless.

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      3. jaysondcooke

        What do you mean “you people.”

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  7. Warren Whitfield

    Btw Laurence Paul Allen did not get the information about Charlotte and Sophy from me as suggested by Jayson. Laurence gave detailed information that I have never published. So that blows that theory out of the water.
    Who are you and where are you from?
    Just trying to find out why you think that you have a say in this matter.
    What is your interest?
    If you have read the BS written by this clown you wouldn’t blame me for reply the way I do.
    The only interest I have is correcting the lies.
    As I said I haven’t been involved for more than 20 years.
    As far as the name Guringai is concerned, I know the history of the name and information evolves as new and better information is presented.
    My preference has always been Garigal, if you read a map I made over 20 years ago that is what I gave for the Broken Bay Tribe from which I am descended.
    Members of my family are resistant to change, but that is their choice. It is nit up to you to tell them who they are.

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    1. jaysondcooke

      We can all see how not involved you are Warren. Extremely uninvolved.

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      1. jaysondcooke

        are you going to try and tell us that Tracey isn’t involved either? She did say it was your ‘brainchild’ and look what it has become.

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  8. Warren Whitfield

    Jayson, you claim to be be a descendant of the Broken Bay Tribe,then Jayson you claim to be a member of my family.
    Because Jayson that’s who we are, even if it doesn’t suit your false narrative.
    Prove who you are Jayson.
    Stop beating around the bush.
    I have had no involvement for over 20 years, at all.
    I am not responsible for what others have published.
    I am not even a member. Haven’t been for over 20 years.

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  9. Warren Whitfield

    I don’t know what has been happening because I have not been involved, fullstop.
    Not even in a small way or behind the scenes.
    I have had no involvement.

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    1. jaysondcooke

      Why?

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    2. jaysondcooke

      So you deny any knowledge of what Tracey-Lee Howie, Neil Evers, Laurie Bimson and Paul Craig have been doing?

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  10. Warren Whitfield

    Because I have other interests, am too busy, and because I live in Far North Queensland so as such I am not in a position to do any more research. I don’t do my research via Google, that is for others.
    When I handed it over I didn’t look back.
    My motives were genuine and only about family, never for notoriety or money. I don’t care for publicity.

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    1. jaysondcooke

      Clearly. You may want to look back over the timeline between 2003 to today. You do appear in that timeline Mr Whitfield. And each time you appear you are discussing Bungaree, promoting for money. Every single time.

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      1. Warren Whitfield

        Bullshit. I have never used my Broken Bay Tribe heritage to make money nor have I promoted my family since leaving.
        You are misinformed

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      2. jaysondcooke

        Mr Whitfield, my audience knows you are lying. Aboriginal People know you are lying. We’re all just patiently waiting for non-Aboriginal authorities to act. The truth has a consistency to it that you and your crew just can’t seem to grasp. You ignore inconsistencies because they are part of your everyday, but they are very apparent to many. if not most others.
        The evidence by which I reached my conclusion is the digital flotsam left by you and yours, polluting the internet with exactly what it needs less, more uncorrected errors, guesses disguised as knowledge, and gross counterfactual pseudo-history.
        My audience have read my work and/or know me and how I operate. They dontt take what I say on face value, nor do they believe me because of what I say, they use their own brains and reasoning to examine what I present and arrive at a conclusion. You are providing the evidence, daily at this rate, and I thank you for that.
        Consider the following:.
        You have told us you left in 2003.
        You told us that you “never used your Broken Bay Tribe heritage to make money nor have you promoted your family since leaving.”
        If there is evidence of you used your Broken Bay Tribe heritage to make money or promoted your family after 2003, you have lied to my audience.
        Here are some examples of you Warren Whitfield using my Ancestor to promote yourself and make money since 2003.

        Family stories 4 — A Guringai Family Story — Warren Whitfield

        https://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/rubbing-shoulders-and-sticks-with-the-aristocracy-20061112-gdosqv.html

        https://search.sl.nsw.gov.au/primo-explore/fulldisplay/ADLIB110366567/SLNSW

        https://www.historyofaboriginalsydney.edu.au/ajax/node/1960?width=700&height=600&content-only=true

        http://users.tpg.com.au/jimreid/friendag/frienda3.htm

        https://www.hawkesbury.net.au/community/hfhg/February2011.html

        Click to access Gosford_Interpretation_Strategy_1Aug2018_SHP.pdf

        https://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-ideas/still-magical/news-story/d9bfc22dea8ce8563b8b73de8fb7e856

        Click to access 20090626Report2006-07AnnualReport.pdf

        Conclusion = you had zero credibility before you slithered onto this website Mr Whitfield.
        Your actions since have not done you any favors, and it’s looking like Tracey-Lee is content to bring you down with her. Great group you’ve got there.

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    2. jaysondcooke

      When some of the businesses they are trading as are registered by you, in your name, they are literally your business Mr Whitfield. When it involves fraud, and the claiming of my ancestors without a shred of evidence, that’s when it becomes my business.
      People don’t usually start multiple businesses with the same/very similar names, including one purporting to be an Aboriginal Corporation; then just disengage completely.
      Please stop wasting our time with more nonsense lies and just be honest.

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  11. Warren Whitfield

    I have no idea what has been going on at all. But Jayson what they do is up to them not my business nor is it yours

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  12. Johnny come lately

    Claiming indigenous heritage is one thing, but the information around who we are and where we come from is not something that evolves with more information. Connection to our mob doesn’t come from “information” disseminated by one person. If you’re a member of the Aboriginal community you KNOW this stuff. You don’t get to be a white family for 100 years and then suddenly pop up black. I’ve been fighting against the Guringai liars and frauds for a very long time. I am not alone. We all know that the story of the “connection” these people “have felt in their bones” (paraphrasing the numerous stories told over the years) is the only thing that has evolved when they realised there was money to be made off of other gullible latte slurping white fools. If anything I feel sorry for the other gubbas that are taken in by their stories and claims to country, because these charlatans are misrepresenting culture and Aboriginal people everywhere. Warren you should ask them to up the medications old boy. You are as deluded as your supposed clan connected mates. Poxy dogs the lot of yas. Stop stealing off mob! You all took our lands and now you’re coming for our identity.

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    1. jaysondcooke

      Before he joined GuiNgai and hooked up their big deal with the Coal Company! I remember that. Forgive WW, he’s now trying out an ignorance plea in the Courtroom in his head.

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  13. Johnny come lately

    Oh and does anyone remember when David Pross was Tasmanian and the grand son of Truganini? And then he became Guringai? That’s some serious problematic nonsense right there.

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    1. Warren Whitfield

      What’s that to do with me?
      Wasn’t he the Chair of DLAC?

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  14. Warren Whitfield

    Who are you? Another want to be stealing off the rightful descendants of land you occupy.
    You should go back to your own country and stop claiming everything you can.
    You are the charlatans not us.

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  15. Warren Whitfield

    What businesses are they Jayson?
    BTW Jayson we are the true descendants of the Broken Bay Tribe as per the historical records.
    You can’t even prove who you are let alone be linked to the Broken Bay Tribe.
    Guringai Tribal Link didn’t exist after 2001,
    I’ve already told you the rigorous process in applying for a TC Aboriginal Corporation yet you have the impotence to continue along that ridiculous line.
    BTW Guringai Tribal Link was created as an identity to unify family not as a business.
    Stop making assumptions

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  16. Warren Whitfield

    What’s that to do with me?
    Wasn’t he the Chair of DLAC?

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    1. jaysondcooke

      It all has to do with you Warren, your name and signature is on the paperwork and Tracey is dragging you down with her, don’t you worry.

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      1. jaysondcooke

        and I suppose you spending a week in this comment section demanding credit for everything could also be an issue for you.

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      2. Warren Whitfield

        You are delusional Jayson. I haven’t demanded credit for anything.
        BTW my name is not on the Corporation, it was changed many many years ago.
        Prove who you are Jayson.
        Prove to your 2 readers that you are who you say you are.
        Show us your connection Jayson, you fake charlatan.
        The only one who will face the full force of the law Mr Cooke is you.
        It is coming.

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      3. jaysondcooke

        Sure Warren, whatever you say.

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      4. jaysondcooke

        Alternatively, you could simply admit why you’re unable to provide actual evidence linking “Sophy” to Bungaree, Matora, or any other member of my family.

        It would be significantly less embarrassing for you at least.

        Until then kindly stop using my Ancestors as props in your ridiculous fraud.

        Please.

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      5. jaysondcooke

        It’s not too late for you to come clean Warren.

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  17. Warren Whitfield

    Prove who you are Jayson. You claim descendancy from Bungaree and the Broken Bay Tribe. Prove it Jayson or stop claiming it.
    It’s not difficult show us your proof

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    1. jaysondcooke

      Nobody has anything to prove to you of all people Mr Warren Whitfield.
      As previously mentioned, having seen what your family do with information that is provided to you, there is a reluctance to share with you. Of course you believe that means not shared with anyone, but this is a silly error. I am known, my People know me, and now the world can see you and your family as they actually are. If it looks ugly, well that’s because its an ugly mess you have made. Ignorance is not an excuse Warren Whitfield, but 100% part of the problem.

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  18. Warren Whitfield

    I have provided proof of our connection Jayson but you haven’t. So do so

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    1. jaysondcooke

      No you haven’t Warren. Not a single time. Have you forgotten the contents of ‘Guringai, GuriNgai, Wannangini, Walkaloa: A long con, gone on too long.’ I lay it all out, in chronological order, with links to the evidence, right up to this very moment.
      The meta/story circle aspect is something I was particularly proud of way back in the planning stages.

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    2. jaysondcooke

      No Warren, you haven’t, we all know you haven’t, you know you haven’t. Shameless.

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  19. Betty box ticker

    Wait Warren..that’s what the local Aboriginal communities on the central coast have asked of your lot. Not once have ANY of you been able to do that. You throwing up a lovely big smoke screen is really reminiscent of “if you can’t blind them with brilliance then baffle them with bullshit”, just replace brilliance with the word TRUTH.

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  20. Geoffrey Preece

    So, where can I find evidence of the claims of Indigenous heritage made by all the belligerents on this page? Nobody has to demonstrate their lineage to me, but it would help everyone if it was readily available.

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    1. jaysondcooke

      It would traditionally happen prior to trying to meet the Queen, charging money for Cultural Knowledge, let alone claiming to be Traditional Owners and Custodians, and claiming to represent Aboriginal People and our concerns. Yet another area the so-called ‘Guringai of the Central Coast’, GuriNgai, Wannangini, and Walkaloa and their associates fall demonstrably short.
      They are not descendants of Bungaree or Matora, those are not the voices of my Ancestors they are hearing in their heads, and they have as much Cultural Authority and credibility as Ronald McDonald.

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    2. jaysondcooke

      Hi Geoffrey,
      A Facebook account with the same name as your WordPress account sent me a Friend Request, but did not respond to messages. Weird hey!

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      1. grp518gmailcom

        Hi Jayson, the Facebook friend request was from me. The messenger app. gives me problems sometimes and I am just getting over a bad flu/cold 5,6 days. Geoffrey Preece. P.S. I am in constant discussion with Bob Syron about his issues.

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